The government’s response to Robert Menard’s 96 fix & accepted for value (a4v)

by Mitch on May 13, 2010

A month or two ago I posted the article  Can you pay your bills with your birth certificate?

In that post I talked about a friend who has gone through all of the proper steps to pay his bills using his birth certificate. He sent copies of appropriate Notices to the Receiver General, the Bank of Canada, Canada Revenue Agency, and Minister of Finance.

He has since forwarded me two of the responses that he received. Yes, he did receive a response from all 4 agencies. He said the other two were short and sent via email. My friend gave me permission to copy the letters to my blog as long as I remove any personally information which I have done.

The letters are attached to the bottom of this post. You will notice a lot of legal wording in these letters. The one from the Minister of Revenue talks a lot about income tax, even though the notices sent to him mentioned nothing about income tax at all. If you haven’t already read those notices they are included in the article about paying your bills with your birth certificate.

If there are any experienced freemen on the land out there reading this it would be great to get your response to the government’s response to Robert Arthur: Menard’s 96 fix, also known as ‘accepted for value’.

Response from the Minister of National Revenue

Dear Mr. Name Removed For Privacy,

I am writing in response to your correspondence received on March 19 and 22, 2010, concerning your income tax affairs.

It seems you have received misleading information with repect to Canaed’s tax laws. The federal government has the legal authority to levy and collect taxes. This authority and the constitutionality of Canada’s tax system have been confirmed by ever major court decision that has dealt with these issues. The courts have confirmed the legality of the Income Tax Act under the Constitution Act, which includes the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Moreover, section 248 of the Income Tax Act provides a definition of “person” or any word or expression descriptive of a person. Various individuals and groups, however, refer to concepts such as “natural person,” “corporation sole,” “animator,” and “free-man-on-the-land,” terms whose meanings are not clear and that do not affect a person’s oblications under the Act.

Under Canada’s income tax system, the Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) does not control or censor the advice that Canadians exchange concerning income tax matters. While taxpayers are entitled to their own opinions, they are, nonetheless, responsible for their obligations under legislation passed by Parliament and enforced by the court system.

The CRA’s concern is that taxpayers who follow misleading information and accept incorrect advice could expose themselves to serious financial and legal problems, including reassessments, penalties, and interest charges, because of their failure to comply with the law. It is especially unfortunate that some taxpayers may have paid considerable fees for such misinformation. Some of the misleading information distributed by certain groups and individuals about income tax and the duties of the CRA is addressed on the CRA Web site at www.cra.gc.ca/myths.

The documents you included with your correspondence have no legal force or effect. The CRA cannot assist you in paying your personal financial obligations. I sugest that you contact your creditors directly if you are unable to meet your obligations and wish to discuss payment.

I trust that this information will be helpful.

Yours sincerely,
Keith Ashfield

Response from Director General of the Bank of Canada

Dear Mr. Name Removed For Privacy,

We are writing in response to your letter, post-stamped February 24th 2010, addressed to the Receiver General for Canada. Given the nature of your request, we have been asked to respond to your letter and take appropriate action, if required.

After a review of the content of your correspondence, we wish to inform you that the items included is not a negotiable instrument recognized by the Financial Administration Act, nor is it a payment issued by the Receiver General and therefore we cannot accept it for payment.

As we are unable to respond directly to your demand, the papers included with your correspondence are being returned to you.

Yours sincerely,

Murielle Boucher
Director General
Banking and Cash Management Sector

{ 57 comments… read them below or add one }

Ryan June 2, 2010 at 10:13 pm

Word to the wise. The government will never pay any bills. That’s not too say that the concept is completely faulty, just shift your vision a little bit so you can see things from a different angle. Here’s a hint “they can’t make you pay for what is already given to you (by God)”. The Bible holds all the answers, and they have to uphold the Laws held therein.

One has to make the government recognize that he is co-heir with Lord Jesus Christ to all there is.

The result is maximum Peace and maximum Freedom. It shall be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

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William August 10, 2010 at 8:08 pm

This accepted for value works if you hold your ground on who you are and you do your diligence. I know people that have used that method and had success in Canada. The key is to keep pushing the documents and know your wording on contracts and sovereignty.

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Diane Dessureault October 26, 2010 at 2:20 pm

if you have story about the one who succeed, can you share the story of them and can they explain who they did it ?

Raven February 24, 2011 at 10:39 am

Yes, please explain or give us information on those who did succeed as there seems to be no evidence of this at all.

Fred Smith October 1, 2010 at 9:50 pm

I’d love to hear some stories of both success and failure of the 96 fix.

Also, discharging a mortgage or car loan.

It seems there’s information out there but no one actually doing it and reporting it.

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CAM May 9, 2011 at 10:48 pm

If you want to discharge a mortgage of sorts, you must own your name and everything under your unbrella . You have to be come a free person them you are exempt from all levys or taxes. In short you have to understand the difference between you and a Duck or any free animal. They do what they want so why don’t we? In order to do what you want you need money for postage a good lawyer of same nature. Someone whom has done it before or is Free person. Learn the queens english and seek her protection. A Real Lawyer knows Biblical Law (Natural law) and Common Law. The rest are cheats for the system. In end you will own your strawman and dictate it its behalf and reap the benifits you never knew you had. Talk to you later. Peace

Justin December 24, 2011 at 4:53 pm

I know of one he lives in Windsor and he did it at a store for a chocolate bar. he wrote the store owner a promissory note and the store owner sent it to the receiver and they sent a check for the amount of the chocolate bar. You can do even more then this write Bonds wallstreet does it everyday! lein your straw man…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhWcG6Um15I&feature=related
great info

Freeman November 23, 2010 at 6:42 am

Hello,
I have reviewed the received correspondence…

The first letter from Keith is a standard one. Many people have received this letter in regards to many issues, myself included. It appears that if you question the CRA on any matter which is, shall we say: less ordinary, they send this “myth” letter.
Though I do love it how it starts off lying to the reader by saying “…constitutionality of Canada’s tax system have been confirmed by ever major court decision…”
Which, for those who have done the research, is obviously not true.
Otherwise, there is little to add. This is what freeman call a “run around letter”, attempting to distract the reader into reading their “myth” propaganda, reading the Income Tax Act, or giving up.

The second letter I find very interesting, especially the word use here.
Personally, I have never served the BOC, so I did enjoy this read (Thank you)

“Given the nature of your request”
This is an interesting choice of words. They admittedly know what it is you are referring to in your demand.
“take appropriate action, if required.”
Ah, the remedy itself.

You see, as this second letter points out, the sender of this “demand” failed to properly demand it. As mentioned, this lady is seeking an instrument to process, not a document demanding something.
As laid out, it would appear that they fully understand what you are asking, and they seem willing to assist, and yet can not. Why?
Procedure. In order for them to proceed, they require an instrument.

Though (need it be said?) I can not provide legal advice… May I suggest that you send an instrument along with your original demands, perhaps even directly to this lady here, and see what happens.

Interestingly enough…
Under the act so mentioned (Financial Administration Act), it reads:

Payments out of C.R.F.
Section 26. Subject to the Constitution Acts, 1867 to 1982, no payments shall be made out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund without the authority of Parliament.
R.S., c. F-10, s. 19.

Fascinating isn’t it? Oh, how I do love law.

Respectfully,

-Freeman
SC Freeman Society
Saskatchewan

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John December 9, 2010 at 3:34 pm

I’m located in Saskatoon, Sk.If you are so inclined, if possible, I’d like to make your aquaintance over a coffe. Advise, please, where you are located.
I’m keenly interested in learning the ropes on this journey, as it looks as if there may be a few speedbumps on the road.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Respectfully submitted, John

Nora December 16, 2010 at 10:37 am

Does it mean that I need to claim my right first to the security of the person
and I have to sent the claim of right to the parlement?

Lawrence August 13, 2011 at 9:58 am

Legal instrument is a legal term of art that is used for any formally executed written document that can be formally attributed to its author,[1] records and formally expresses a legally enforceable act, process,[2] or contractual duty, obligation, or right, and therefore evidences that act, process, or agreement.[3][4] Examples include a certificate, deed, bond, contract, will, legislative act, notarial act, court writ or process, or any law passed by a competent legislative body in municipal (domestic) or international law. Many legal instruments were written under seal by affixing a wax or paper seal to the document in evidence of its legal execution and authenticity (which often removes the need for consideration in contract law); however, today many jurisdictions have done away with the requirement of documents being under seal in order to give them legal effect. Others, such as Australia, have re-interpreted sealing as a formally attested signature.

Bigfame December 21, 2010 at 6:44 pm

Hi ,

This SC Freeman Society and paying bills with your birth certificate
is very interesting I would like to know if there is any meeting in the Quebec and Ontario regions so we can exchange more info and please let me know if there is any blog related to the matter thank you please let me know .

Signe ; A new freeman on the land

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Mitch December 22, 2010 at 10:52 am

Head over to worldfreemansociety.org and join the community forums there, they will be able to point you in the right direction.

Chief December 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm

I myself live in Vancouver and would really like to get together with like minds about this whole situation. I would really like to pick robs brain about it but unsure how to contact him. I would like to exercise this right but from what i have seen in videos and such it seems to be harder than it looks. LIke the reply letters are pretty much denying him but maybe because he didnt request it properly ? unclear and would like to hear from others who have had succes as well, anyone else in Vancouver would love to meet up

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ester May 12, 2011 at 2:00 am

Hi there,
I live in Vancouver too..

Joe January 3, 2011 at 11:17 am

If something sounds too good to be true that’s because it is too good to be true

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queencobra October 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm

go away

r4 January 21, 2011 at 12:26 pm

I would love to actually hear of some success stories too. Standard letter from the CRA or not, it would be good to see some confirmation letters where something like this IS accepted, and what those letters confirming that it’s true, or paid, etc… would look like.

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Leena February 4, 2011 at 8:39 am

The way I see it…canada is a corporation being sold piece by piece to the highest bidder. They are gradually privatizing every department of the U.S. and Canadian Government, thereby creating shares to be sold off. Those shares actually belong to you and I…taxpayers who have bought and paid for everything the Government spends and uses for their disposals…Therefore, we are subject to dividend payments to the stock and any profit earned on sales of those shares are legally ours to be divided amongst us, or continued dividend payments on profit from increase in stock value. The value of that stock is determined on the forecasted profit earned from taxation…which is gradually being increased to include carbon taxes, higher gas taxes…taxes for your flatulence and respiratory requirements…so there is A LOT of profit to be made off you and I thereby increasing the value of those stocks…All we would have to do therefore is find a way to stake our claim…

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Passerby July 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm

I don’t think the government is selling off YOUR shares as they never belonged to them. What they are “selling off” is administrative control. They don’t need to sell your ownership in Canada. If I’m a buyer of Canada, everything is in place to extract wealth from the public with the bureaucracy firmly in place. You are just buying up the ability to control it.

And share values are not determined by profit earned from taxation, they are determined by the productive capacity of the members of society, i.e. how many resources are mined, how capable are the workers, how much GDP there is, etc.

I do agree there’s a lot of profit to be made, but they aren’t selling YOUR shares. Taxation is money to be made on the public side, share value is on the private side.

As for the A4Vs, I’m looking into this myself. Somebody mentioned it above – I think you need a financial instrument with special instructions on what to do with it, otherwise they aren’t going to do anything for you nor will they understand what you’re telling them to do.

soveriegn March 16, 2011 at 10:32 am

You cannot PAY anything with the birth certificate. PAYMENT has nothing to do with the birth certificate. PAYMENT is exclusively part of the money system. The BC is not used for discharge either. Money and PAYMENT is ledger accounting. BC is “nullification” of debt, discharge is dishonour (bankruptcy). What makes you think they are YOUR bills? Were they addressed to YOU or the name you use in commerce? Where is your energy vested? Where is the property you are using vested? Who comes into the world first You or the NAME? Who leaves this world first YOU or the NAME. Where does the debt reside? some questions that may bring you closer to understanding…hmmm

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Anton Perry April 5, 2011 at 11:05 am

You spelt Sovereign wrong. Everything else is correct…

Scotty April 2, 2011 at 9:33 am

They will ALWAYS dishonour your A4V, so you should go into it expecting this. When they do, you then file a commercial lien on the individual person who dishonhoured it. When they dishonour it, you then sue on the liquid document. The clever bit is not actually about the money: in your affidavits you create a new contract with them that insures that i) they do not collect on the outstanding debt and ii) that will not alter your credit rating. The lien is used as a counter-claim in case they dishonour your affidavit. One more thing: before using A4V give them notice that you will be using it!!! Demand that they send you a formal offer in the form of a bill and you will set-off the account. Then, when they do send it, they can’t use plausible deniability. Good luck!

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ester May 12, 2011 at 2:02 am

Thank you for this insight. My partner and I are currently doing the 96 fix. They sent a letter saying :we do not accept the positions as mentionned in your letter….interesting words. Anyways, I was told to submit them again because when you resubmit them they are forced to do it the second time.

Regan May 3, 2011 at 5:37 pm

I was reading the response letters to 96 is your fix, and thought they were interesting. I realise this post is old, and you may already have the info you need but here is my 2 cents anyway.
#1 What documentation did your friend send in?
#2 The birth certificate alone is not enough to set off dept, after sending the B.Cert
to the minister of finance/ treasury, you must aslo send in a set off bond and aslo an indemnity bond for good measure, then you will use the set off bond to set off dept. the process is alot more involved then this, and requires an administrative procedure to have the treasuries acceptance. after these things are in place an administrative procedure is required for each A4V so it is recomended that you bundle a bunch together to cut down on the cost of completing your admin procedure. If your looking for sucess stories and process info download the Creditors in commerce audio class sessions for free at creditors in commerce.com. you can also download all relevant forms and examples. there are many living men and women who are continuing to have 100% sucess with the A4V process, but it requires a good deal of study and knoledge of the process involved.
#4 If no one will accept your birth cert. with bankers acceptance in canada, lodge it with the U.S. treasury, as they are used to it over there.
#5 call Canada Revenue Agency and ask them what department you send set offs to, this is where you send A4vs, but they will require a fee for processing them, so you need the right form so they can access your bond and pay themselves. some people have sucess sending ther A4vs to the cheif financial officer of whatever corporation you get the alleged bill from, because the C.F.O has the ability to act on the private side, but you will likely only recive a response from someone else in the corporation, but if they keep the a4v and only give some lame response then they have been paid, and it’s only a matter of expressing this and holding your mud.
Also because there is no lawful money, no one can demand payment in any particular form, and so you have the choice to pay in any form you choose, and if you offer payment (A4v) and they send it back to you, they have just refused payment and so you no longer owe anything !!! Again, you dont really need any forms lodged with anyone, no form will ever make you soverign, to get anyone to accept anything you send them you just need to know who you are, and have a good working knoledge of contract law, specifically Acceptance, Conditional acceptance, refusal, and silence.
there is a legal maxim which states that ignorance of the law excuses no one. but there are over 3 million law books written on any subject you can imagine, and you can hardly be expected to read even one without falling asleep. So in my studies the 4 points of contract stated above are in my opinion the most important key to all I have learned so far. For this leagal maxim to be true it implies simplicity and I think that we all make things alot more complicated then they really are. Anyone can remember these 4 points, and this knoledge combined with an understanding that everything is by our consent will make anyone who truly takes the time to study these things a force to be rekoned with.
#6 Always respond to any response you get from anyone, or you are accepting by silence everything that is stated in their response. Always set the terms of the response that you require from them so that if they respond in any other way you can send it back with REUSAL FOR CAUSE written across it. Everything you receive from them as a response is an offer and must be treated as such. If you have not sent them back a response of your own, or sent them back what they sent you , including the envelope they sent it to you in with REFUSAL FOR CAUSE written across it as well then you have accepted their offer.
#7 The response letter from CRA is especially interesting as they are not saying they wont help you, they only say in this case that they can’t assist you in paying your personal obligations. I.E your “persons” obligations. It appears that they have aknoledged that you have a person, and also they sugest you contact “your creditors” They have also aknoledged that you are attempting to act as responsable trustee, that you are a creditor and that you are in charge of your creditors. If you are asking them to “assist you” in paying your depts you are acting as a deptor and they have no responsability to do anything for you. Did you respond to this letter? Did they keep what you sent them or did they send it back to you? If they kept it ,they are waiting to see if you are going to act like a creditor and call them on the fact that they have accepted what you sent them. I have seen similar letters from CRA and mostly they are saying that they are bound by their own rules, but they are pointing out that there is a remedy within the income tax act.
They are asking us to file the proper forms to get a remedy through their rules and regulations (Origonal issue discount/redemption). For more info on this check out Canadians in commerce.com.
It’s awesome to see these responses as they can’t tell us directly what we must do, they can only hint and point us in the right direction, it’s frustrating and also beautifull at the same time, because it’s obvious to me that they really do want us to be fully responsable for ourselvs. I beleive that there is a huge percentage of government employees who don’t want to see the system crash, and that they really are trying to help us in any way they can. These people are our brothers and sisters and it seems from the responses they have sent you that they are honoring you and the choices you have made. They did not have to respond at all, but they did, and they have provided you with a classic confession and avoidence. They slip us clues, avoiding everything, but confessing everything. I would feel proud to get responses like these. Knoledge is power and as with any great power it can destroy us or set us free, we each hold the power of absolute destruction and absolute creation, especially in regards to the controll we have in the world of commerce. you are going to be tested over and over again until you prove you can be responsable for your your own affairs, if it were not like this the government would be essentally handing out atomic weapons to children.
Good luck, have faith, and always remember to keep asking questions( AS-KING)
Wisdom can not be taught it can only be learned.
Regan

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Bernard May 11, 2011 at 5:47 pm

This freeman business works! I have been a Freeman for the last two years and while I am not interested in the commercial aspects (AFV, etc) I can say that standing under Common Law, standing Sui Juris, WORKS if you have familiarized yourself with the procedural details, especially knowing the traps set to ensnare you and how to avoid them.

My wife and I have been dealing with the local magistrates court (we are in Queensland, Australia) about forfeiture of our car to the government (for driving without registration)

Result: four times we have been in court (mind you: NOT crossing the bar!) but remaining in the public gallery and four times we have denied them jurisdiction.
They are now in a corner from which they cannot extricate themselves: true, they still have the car but they have run out of lawful means to forfeit it! The reason is very simple; without our consent they have no jurisdiction and without jurisdiction they cannot lawfully do anything. We’ll get the car back as they have no way to forfeit it; all they are doing at the moment is playing for time and dragging their feet.

They have run out of options – we haven’t. We have placed commercial liens against the cops and the magistrate involved and I have now involved the attorney-general of Queensland as well as the police minister. If necessary they’ll get a lien placed against them as well.

There is only one true law: Common Law. How to define Common Law?

COMMON sense + moral LAW = COMMON LAW

1) INFORM YOURSELF
2) HONOUR COMMON LAW
(which is really about honouring yourself and your fellow man/woman)
3) STAND YOUR GROUND

That’s really all there is. Why would anybody want to be a slave when they can be and should be free?

Cheers

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Graeme June 21, 2011 at 9:18 pm

Thanks heaps Bernard. We are working on ideas here in Perth, Western Australia. Would you be able to share some info with us?
cheers Graeme

Duncan November 17, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Bernard
I live in Melbourne Aust and I am trying to find someone in Aust to help me through the process of becoming a Freeman. Do you or do you know of anybody in Aust assisting people with this process? I am more than willing to pay for peoples time. Thank you very much
Duncan

God May 12, 2011 at 11:25 am

Sounds fun. Good luck.

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Anthony June 6, 2011 at 5:11 pm

Do you have to be a freeman to use “96″, I’m trying to follow all of this, can you just put “accepted for value” with your birth cert and send it away?, or do you have to send letters out to the government first, can someone just let me know the process

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George Gatliff July 8, 2011 at 11:22 am

“unfortunately all of the people who say this has worked for them have not replied to my emails or requests for further information…

I’d really like to hear the details on someone’s success story!”-Mitch

Don’t hold your breath waiting, Mitch!

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brian July 29, 2011 at 11:30 am

I am going through the process of the birthcertificate as a bond myself, one of the keys is to appoint those public servants as fiducuary, (iether debtor, or trustee) then they are obligated.

the other thing is the fact that CANADA is a US corporation, thus send your bonds and instructions (bond order) to the US treasury.

Anyone who wants to learn this process, I would suggest studying Winston Shrout.

peacelovehonour. Bri

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Bob August 1, 2011 at 7:01 am

They show you how to live free in their corporate world. It’s right there staring you in the face…lol they are playing with your intelligence…the magic is through CRA.
Get all your income tax “retuned” if you just step to the side and let your trust do all the work. No need to play that stupid game of a4v …lol..it’s been killing everybody trying to do it. Stop acting like a corporate fiction and start acting like a trustee.

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randy December 13, 2011 at 9:38 am

how do we set up a trust? why cant people just lay it out instead of talking in riddles? dont mean to sound pissy, ive followed this stuff for a few years now and do understand the reality of things but it seems the ones that claim to know all the answers prefer not to just come out with it and just tease us with bits and peices of info….some of us dont understand the truth, some of us need our hands held and lead to the obvious, some of us dont comprihend, some of us cant spell comprihend lol…but seriously, there will never be enough of us to take back what is rightfully ours if the ones that are wont show us the way

In learning April 4, 2012 at 1:14 am

Can you explain what CRA is? You don’t do the “A4V” with your birth certificate? …isn’t the whole point to give the certificate back to them to make them the ones responsible?

emailuser June 28, 2012 at 1:35 am

>> Randy says:
>> why cant people just lay it out instead of talking in riddles?

Precisely. Need to take care of a pressing matter in a timely fashion, and have been wading through the smug know-more-than-thou attitudes that weave some vague parable while lacing it with random side-of-the-mouth pot shots about ignorance and/or lack of study. It’s been an exercise in absolute and frustration.

One might consider that if said treatment were balanced by a capacity (or willingness) to shed real light on something more useful – other than self-aggrandizement – then perhaps more could be accomplished.

Granted, one is not expecting a free handout, nor should they deserve one, but as it stands, it seems many (supposed) Freemen have a taste for the flesh of their young.

Cory August 2, 2011 at 3:17 pm

I have remitted a credit card as it is the law or remedy. Yes there is a process, it does work, but sometimes it does not come without a fight. A guy I know has set me up with this remittance (Canada) and a4v process( USA). The remittance does work period. I am currently waiting for my a4v process to happen( discharge debt) takes 3 to 6 months from Canada. As Canada is a sub corporation of the USA. When studying this info in depth, I am sickened at how corrupt the world governments are and how bad we have all been deceived. All the answers are in your grasp if you dare put the peices of the puzzle together. All judges, lawyers politicians and above all the Monarchy, are the biggest murdering criminals on this fragile planet. We are all fictional corporate sheep enslaved by wolves! Believe it or not!

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Greum August 9, 2011 at 6:40 pm

It is all in the words what there saying is true, it is an obligation but you ask them is it mandatory, and if so document and verify the mandatory obligation, which does not exist, if they try to and send you some paper with words on it, it’s basically a sworn affidavit of fraud

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Mr X October 2, 2011 at 11:10 pm

I had worked for the government of Canada in Ottawa, Ontario the Capital of Canada where most of the federal government is. I worked on computers and always on contract. I did support for their computers and I have truly been in most of the building there and seen every office, stood over them while they worked. The government is really in everyone’s minds and nothing more. Government = Govern = to control + Ment = Mind therefor Government = Mind Control. It is just a bunch of people who sit in offices and push papers around and they don’t really know what is going on other than what the media says. Unless of course you are a minister then they just rubber stamp stuff that the Prime Minister tells them and the P M gets his orders from higher up like the governor general and others who are directly under the Queen ie Freemasons. If you get a letter of response from the minister of finance for example it is a form letter that has been set up to respond to certain situations. If there is a signature there in the past is was a machine that would write it out and not the actual person. Now it is all digitized so the computer will just print out the signature. Those letters you send it goes to a clerk that will get it and go oh I will enter this persons name and address in to the computer and flag it with response B and then the computer will print out the envelope and the letter and some one will stuff it and put it in the mail. So how you get past that I am not to sure. Maybe put in the letter that I know you are just a clerk and you are told to use response B and tell them it is about you as well maybe they will get the hint. But that clerk has bills to pay as well and does not want to rock the boat and lose his / her job. Now how to get past that? It is just a system setup like a computer program and bunch of robots doing their bit. Maybe get to the ones who are setting this program system up and it is not the ministers either I can tell you that. They have think tanks they hire people to sit in a meeting room and setup these systems I have been part of one and heard of others. I have a lot of in site to the inner workings of the fed gov does anyone have questions?

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Jeromiah November 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm

I notice the lack of posting in the success department, Could that be because the whole thing is a sham ?

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Mitch April 22, 2012 at 3:15 pm

Or perhaps its because I havent been approving comments for over a year.

There are plenty of successes recently. Just have a look at youtube.

I recently mailed out an accepted for value of my own and I will report the outcome when I find out more information.

It’s cetainly not a sham, it is just very very confusing and meticulous.

L November 30, 2011 at 5:19 pm

What seems to be the problem here is that these “Freemen” seem to think that “the nature of your request” is the governments way of admitting they ahve something that they are keeping from it’s citizens. “…Unless required to do so” means that they will HAVE to do it if you bitch and complain enough. I’m sorry to burst your bubble of complete ignorance, but these claims that the government will pay your bills is completely ludicrous. Serial numbers, registration numbers and SIN’s are nothing more than numbers and don’t give ANY citizen of Canada a special right to not have to pay the bills that are THEIR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY. In what world do you live in where any person, if they “word” a letter correctly, can somehow come into money that the rest and MOST of the members humanity just simply do not. Don’t fool yourself, if you even begin to believe these things to be true than you need to take a course in critical thinking because there is a serous lack of it on this forum. There are no magic words you can use to fool the government into paying you money. It is seriously shameful that people tell others this ridiculous infomation and even more so humiliating for the people who attempt it without using their own minds to critique such an outlandish claim.

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queencobra October 20, 2012 at 12:39 pm

We live in bviously a different world than you do…a free world. You…live in slave world. Sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but yes, you can pay bills from CRA. You just have to know exactly what you’re doing and word it correctly, playing “the game”. Poor you.

Langfrod January 27, 2012 at 8:29 pm

I don’t care WHAT law gives them authority to collect taxes.

Section 32 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms says that the charter (inside the Constitution Act, 1982) O N L Y applies to agents performing or implementing a function of government. Section 52 says that anything inconsistent with the Constitution Act, including the charter, is of no force or effect.

so if the charter says that the law only applies to government, and the income tax act says otherwise.. the charter wins. period.

Your birth certificate was created by the government, with their signature. It’s theirs, their property, their rules. (look up legal title, because that’s what the B.C. evidences, and that’s what YOU hold. You are the trustee of the title of NAME in statutory jurisdiction.)

HOWEVER. your LIVE birth statement is also a title. Created by you and given TO you through your parents, and is evidence of your birth right to equity in this land that you were born on. Your birth right is your equitable title, which is title to whatever GOD gave you. It exists inherently outside the government’s statutory jurisdiction, instead, it exists in inherent jurisdiction. Which exists ABOVE statutory.

You sent them the evidence that you OWN that title. It was given to you. Signed by you (by your parents). You sent THEM the l e g a l title of NAME, they became our trustee. We are trustor, Administrator, Equitable title holder, Sole Shareholder, BENEFICIARY, and Sole Owner of the title of NAME. Evidenced by the LIVE birth statement. When you request it, it comes with their seal and signature, naming it a “certified” copy. Evidence in court.

Their rules or “statutes / acts” are to ensure that they don’t cause injury to their trustors. They are liable for any damage, and breach of trust. All revenue generated from the use of the land is actually supposed to be paid to those who hold equitable title of the land. And if we hold that title, we cannot be taxed on our own property. The title of NAME.

The system operates on PRESUMPTIONS about you and everybody else. You are presumed to be an agent of the government, since you’ve been using your B.C. to get I.D. to get Licenses and Apply for things all your adult life. They see you have a S.I.N. number, and that you consent to everything they tell you to do. Why shouldn’t they presume that you are an employee? Isn’t another name for the S.I.N. and Employee Number? look it up!

So if statutory laws do not apply to you, if you followed along with the above:

– do you need a license to drive?
– do you have to pay taxes?
– is smoking pot illegal? or criminal?
– can they steal my car parked on a public road?
– can they detain, or arrest me, if I didn’t do anything?
– can I be unlawfully searched?
– do I actually have to learn all this legalese bullsh*t?

NO, NO, NO.

Four words for you. I DO NOT CONSENT. put it on everything they give you, just make sure

Go look up Dean Clifford, he set it straight.

http://www.youtube.com/user/DCDOTCF
http://www.freemanitoba.com/
http://privateaudio.homestead.com/Dean-Clifford.html

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Jamie Nichols May 11, 2012 at 10:13 pm

the first course of action here appears to be to file Your notification of reservation of rights UCC 1-308/ 1-207 send to several actual criminal Judges by registered mail then serve them if they refuse it. Wait several weeks have a lawyer check your diplomatic status. If you are not on the Diplomatic Immunity List then get a parking violation and exercise your right is court in court to defeat the violation, then you should be on the list shortly thereafter. Now you’ll have to Sue the federal government for recognition throughout all fifty states rather then just the one you file it in. Start here study and you’ll find your path

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PaulMindra May 14, 2012 at 8:29 pm

Please ignore the prior post. It was posted by result of a hijacked e-mail.
Thank you.
pm\PM.

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Jacky Tar June 28, 2012 at 9:47 pm

Wow… a whole lot of people are drinking the A4V Kool-aid. I particularly like the idea that Canada is somehow a corporation owned by the US; that’s special. I also noticed a lot of claims of “Yes this works I discharged all my debt” but there’s a distinct lack of details. Now, I’m a naturally suspicious and cynical type person, so the first thing that occurs to me is…

IT DOESN’T WORK.

Peace, out.

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queencobra October 20, 2012 at 12:50 pm

You’re absolutely correct. It doesn’t work for people with attitudes like yours.

Brad July 30, 2012 at 7:19 am

I have been sending out A4V’s for a while and have had then sent back , the ones sent were addressed to the CEO or CFO. They never get that high so they try to say to me “Never heard of it however refusal of payment is payment. I sent my A4V’s with a properly crafted Promissory note as well, and they were still returned to me. They would rather eat broken glass then have us realize the truth. I will continue my fight I have been holding them at bay under the Competition Act. and threatening to swear out a complaint as to the fraudulent nature of refusal of discharge.
False or misleading representations

52. (1) No person shall, for the purpose of promoting, directly or indirectly, the supply or use of a product or … any business interest, by any means whatever, knowingly or recklessly make a representation to the public that is false or misleading in a material respect.

(5) … liable to a fine in the discretion of the court or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both; or (b) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding $200,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or to both.

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dean darryll August 18, 2012 at 8:23 am

thank you so much for the info, i have found the research very interesting and motivating to stand in another way. i say ‘in another way’ for the perspective i hold is Psalms 24 v1 – the Earth is The LORDs and fulness thereof… and again matthew 17 – from whom do the kings of the earth take tribute, from their sons or from strangers?……Jesus goes on to say, then are the sons exempt but so that we do not offend.. (for that moment i guess) pay…. on a practical, today level, it seems we have to know who we are…many thanks

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queencobra October 20, 2012 at 12:46 pm

THIS WILL HELP YOU:
I know, there’s so much info, disinfo and confusion! Canadians, google Dean Clifford on YouTube, he explains the thing very well….it’s about what “title” you stand under, not the NAME or the strawman, etc, etc. When you “stand under your cert. of LIVE birth (YOU) VS. your birth certificate (Gov’t owned identity). It makes sense, if you put yourself in their jurisdiction, you play by THEIR rules. If you stay in your OWN free jurisdiction, you play by FREE rules. Also see: getoutofdebtfree.org , Robert Menard and Santos Bonacci are all good resources.
Good luck!

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Mike Tee October 21, 2012 at 9:56 am

Hi,

I’m in Sydney Australia and have been looking into this for some time now with respect to becoming “freeman on the land” and also with respect to using bonds/money from birth certificate to pay bills and wondering if there’s anyone from Sydney that I could meet up with that knows a bit more about the process and if it’s possible to do it here in Australia as it is talked about in the US! I’m happy to pay a Biblical/Natural/Common Law specialist to walk me through as I’m really frustrated having spent years now trying to find the correct method to successfully become a “free man on the land” so to speak and at the same time rid myself of any unjust financial “obligations” which in reality are moreso theft/fraud on behalf of banks!

Hoping someone can get back to me and maybe meet up sometime soon!

Regards,

Mike

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Seeking truth November 4, 2012 at 4:56 am

I’m taking the crown to court asking them to provide proof of obligation to act as a subject slave which gives them the right to restrain my inalienable rights. Second, I am asking for all original documents pertaining to the SIN tax account number and the registration numbers on the act of birth. I don’t claim anything. I ask the crown to explain. When they don’t provide the proof. I win and a declaratory injunction get my status as a human being recognized in law. It is then enforced. I just think that the crown scam agents are clamping down on the sovereign movement and they are going to shake out the talkers from the doers. I was a auditor licensed in Canada and the US. The system is getting desperate. That’s why justice rooke wrote out a 187 page judgement against this movement. Know your enemies first, then you can stand high. Peace to all. Don’t give up.

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Alecia November 9, 2012 at 2:24 pm

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Mitch October 26, 2010 at 7:36 pm

unfortunately all of the people who say this has worked for them have not replied to my emails or requests for further information…

I’d really like to hear the details on someone’s success story!

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Paul Mindra May 11, 2011 at 7:41 pm

Hi Mitch,
I just sent something on the way to moderating and hope that you receive it.

Success stories come with different covers and backpages.

I came across your listing today. Glad that I did.

My name is Paul and I am contacting you from Ontario, Canada.

Accepted for Value as People doing it say ‘Evolves.’
Let’s talk evolution and we will have the answers that we all are so desperately seeking.

I started the Bond Thing in Prior 2007. Funny things have happened. Too close to be coincidental.

It unfolds before me as if I were the master. Lost everything in The Abuse of Process my friend. No problem. All forgiven. It was not really their fault. The fault lay in The Trust.

Does anyone have a solution and can we convice all 500 members or so to committ to that solution. It involves Acceptance and Value.

Here is a reality check: ‘What if the Authorized Agent is actually sending us a request for extension of Credit?’

‘What if The Authorized Agent does not know that they are sending us a request for extension of credit?’

Either way, doesn’t matter. Return it back to them accepted as a valuable instrument payable to them without recourse to the endorsor.
Will discuss later after seeing what was sent as a fix.

Peace.

sent by paul.

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Passerby July 16, 2012 at 3:17 pm

The people who are successful will never reply to you or send you anything. Why?

1. Because they owe you nothing.
2. Because people who know and understand this stuff don’t shout it from the rooftops and don’t spoon feed people like you who don’t want to take the time to learn the system before trying out remedies.
3. Because those people have spent a great deal of time acquiring knowledge and information that has value. They don’t give it away for free.
4. Success stories don’t involve letters coming back from the CRA which say, “Congratulations, you’ve figured it out! We have swiftly processed your acceptance for value remedy as requested and look forward to serving you in the future. Thank you for your business!” If it worked, you aren’t going to hear anything back.

I don’t mean any disrespect, but spend your time learning instead of demanding success stories and evidence from people.

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